I think the above posters are correct, it's very difficult to change the minds or even plant little seeds with older entrenched JW's, like most of our parents. I have made some inroads with friends more my age who are already a little disgruntled and trying to raise kids in that organization. Some of them listen to seeds, however most of them are so asleep they don't even notice stuff like the anointed number going up or the new article in the 6/15 WT. They just keep going along, albeit miserable.
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is it really worth trying to change their minds?
by homeschool inafter reading steven hassan's book, i really believe the jw's are in a high mind control group, like so many other cult-like religions.
one point stuck out to me though....hassan said he will not do interventions if the purpose is selfishly motivated.
i don't know why, but it's made me question some things.
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Need help.
by lostjdub93 inwell to start i was raised a jw.
my girlfriend is as member of sovereign grace ministries.
i have not been to a meeting in 15 years, i have attended the memorial every year.
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Yknot, what great links.
Lostdub93, these links are probably just the tip of the ice berg. I think you should really do some research on this group. Check out their theories on parenting.
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Need help.
by lostjdub93 inwell to start i was raised a jw.
my girlfriend is as member of sovereign grace ministries.
i have not been to a meeting in 15 years, i have attended the memorial every year.
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What is involved in this Sovereign Grace Ministries? Is she saying you have to be a member of that to be with her? They may be just as bad as JW's then. Is it real involved could she just take the baby and leave you out of the religious upbringing? Could the two of you find a new church together? Then the baby could decide when he is older. Or am I getting that you are afraid of being DF'ed? Try to define what worries you the most, you really have a lot on your plate right now. All the best. Listen to all the advice you are about to get. Don't call her while you've been drinking.
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Did you get sick after you went to an assembly ?
by greenhornet ini always did.
it was like clock work a few days after.
bang sore throat sometime fever etc..
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Yes, we always got sick. These venues were not made for entire families to be there for the entire day, sit with you lunch under your ass and be in such close crowded quarters for 3 days.
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Watching the Clock
by The Berean indo jws frequently report more time devoted to their ministry than actually spent perhaps for image reasons or to keep other people happy?.
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One hour really did feel like ten
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Tell us about the offbeat people you have had in your congregation
by BonaFide inwe had a brother once in my sisters' hall who would preach downtown with old watchtowers and awakes, i mean like 15 year old magazines, and he would sell them above cost.
even after the donation system went info effect, he would still sell them.
the elders tried to talk to him about it, but he could never really have a normal conversation.
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Let's see, the bipolar sister with lots of lip stick who felt (during the manic phase of her disease) that she could easily place 50 magazines a day and demanded that we turn over our ration to her. Her child ,well into grade school, communicated only in barn yard noises. The incontinent brother that always got assigned to my back seat. The brother that felt dry cleaning his only sport coat was an annual event got assigned to my other back seat. I could go on and on. I'll save some for later.
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Some Single Sisters' Problems with Brothers
by friday77 infirst of all, i'm a newbie to this site, so i hope that there will be some response to my thread on this particular topic (which i have plenty to relate about).. i wonder why some single (and a few married) brothers in the org have shown a great deal of disrespect for single sisters?
i am bringing this issue up because not only myself but also my sisters [i have four (4) other in my immediate family] along with 3 of my cousins (who have been dedicated and baptized since adolescent age) plus my own close girlfriends have experienced being gossiped/slandered by a host of brothers who think that they are "all that" and jah's gift to women on planet earth!
as a matter fact, when one brother in particular [whose uncle is an elder, brother was a regular pioneer/temporary worker at bethel and cousin was a ministerial servant] at a nicely-populated gathering saw myself, two (2) of four sisters, one of cousins and a few of my close friends being approached as well as introduced to a number of handsome, well-dressed brothers to us via two (2) of the family members whom hosted the event.
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I felt that way, and I was a married sister. Here I ran a home, took care of a family, had a professional career with people who actually answer to me and I am expected to go along with every hair brained idea that the janitor overseer came up with. Didn't you love it when some man had to dictate the menu and the orderliness of processes like food service at a quick build. Sorry for the rant. NMKA
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We've left the WT and doing fine....
by boyzone ini love my sons and i'm just so proud of them all!!
i have 4 fantastic boys, all brought up as jw's and all out.. since we all left (me and hubby included) our lives have never been richer or happier.
to give you an idea what i'm on about, my youngest son is 9 years old and he's had a rough time over the last year.
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Good news, there really is no better feeling than to stand back and see our children succeed.
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Our two top Pioneers were disfellowshiped for immorality this week!
by Witness 007 insitting at the meeting this week the brother on stage said elder a_____ has an anouncement....we all know what that means disfellowshiping!
{this elder i spoke with before the meeting and he did look stressed} "brother b______ is no longer a jehovahs witness" sister c____ is no longer a pioneer and has been reproved..." wtf!
brother a ____ spends every waking moment witnessing, he's alittle irratating with every sentence containing the term "jehovah.
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I think JW's go way crazier because they have lived a life of being so pent up and repressed. For instance, you have a 18 or 19 year old son or daughter. Normally the child has went to the little innocent middle school dances, had a boyfriend in high school, you talk openly about sex in the home and about having safe sex. Then I think the normal stages of development would be for them to eventually have sex, hopefully safely. Contrast this with the JW home where the child gets very little experience with the opposite sex, they are made to fell incredible guilt about their sexuality. They are well aware if they deviate from these unattainable standards mom and dad are going to disown them and there is going to be an announcement about them that will spread like wildfire to everyone they have ever known. What a recipe for disaster! The story is so familiar in JW circles that the 20 year old "runs off" with some guy (always turns out bad) and all the poor kid was looking for was a shot at being normal. I tell my husband all the time, look at all the drama we are going to spare ourselves and the kids living out side of the cult.
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What Did You Do With All Your Watchtower Publications?
by minimus ini needed room when i moved so i sadly threw my entire library away.
i mentioned this to an exjw.
he and his wife took all the hundreds of books, including bound volumes from the 1800s and are now using them for research and proof of watchtower lies.. what did you do with your books?.
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We had a big 'ol bonfire. Stuff dating way back to the 40's. My poor husband got quilted into going to the memorial this year and could not find a bible and song book to take.